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June 27, 2009

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Jason

Sharon,

Amazing thoughts and a great encouragement to us all. Thank you.

"We are to love others radically, we are to speak boldly about Jesus, and we are to live a life that testifies daily to the Gospel. Nothing less, but also nothing more."

Loved that insight. Thank you.

John Wallace

Great thoughts, Sharon. I suspect that many faithful lifelong servants have been judged mediocre by the world, even by the church. It is a tremendous encouragement to see at Summit many young adults who are actively seeking to invest their whole lives in the Kingdom. Many from my generation spent the first half of their lives pursuing worldly wealth and pleasure and then turned to God. The church has tended to makes examples out of these because their pre-Christian exploits are impressive and their conversions often dramatic. Of course we praise God for them. Yet the fact that we barely notice the many who have served God from youth betrays our motives. We really do value worldly success.

seekhimdaily

In my experience, those who tally up 'thousands of people who prayed the sinner's prayer because of me' usually don't say it that way. They say, "got saved by me" (I swear, I've heard it), or "were saved through my preaching", or any of the other many ways to say the same thing. They say this as if the number saved is a knowable number. IOW, they say this as if they think they are God.

The word the New Testament uses for "mass conversions" is "many believed". "Thousands believed." The point being that Scripture says "even the demons believe", intellectually speaking. But those who "endure to the end will be saved." In fact, John records a mass conversion after Christ's sermon where, not a few short minutes later, the recent converts attempted to kill Christ.

Romans 10 tells us that saving belief is something that occurs in the heart and comes forth from the mouth. However, James tells us intellectual belief can also come forth from the mouth. There is now way to immediately tell the difference between mere intellectual belief and heart belief. Nonetheless, these professional mass-converters tally up for us, immediately after the service, how many people just "got saved." Don't be jealous. Honestly, I sometimes wonder how many of these mass-converters are being saved.

Mike

There seems to be a ladder of success in just about every job. But I'm all about encouraging any professional pastor (ie one who is is in a formal "I'll take X amount of pay to pastor you" agreement) to get a 'secular' job and do the pastoring on a volunteer basis. There is nothing sinful about professional pastoring. But it does add a lot of temptation toward sin into the equation, and it does look bad to the curious unbeliever.

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