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July 12, 2009

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Heath Lloyd

Sometimes I ask, "where would Jesus be?"

- with the Father
- with people -including the ones mentioned here by CHS

I don't think Jesus spent much time in committee meetings.

Thanks for the post.

John Wallace

Thank you, pastor. These are wise words from the prince. Lately there has been so much emphasis on the importance of leadership (rulership) that is has tended to devalue the role of caring (looking after the flock). No pastor can attend personally to every need of every person but he can address some in a way that sets a visible example and he can lead the church to equip her people to care competently for those in need. We cannot avoid needy people because we're all needy at some point or another. If you don't have time for needy people, you'll alienate everyone eventually. I've met many people in our community, people with all the visible marks of success, who feel they have no spiritual counselor to whom they can go in times of crisis. Often their pastors seem inaccessible and other church leaders unhelpful. I recently met a high profile Christian businessman who had abandoned any hope that a local church would ever minister to his needs. He doesn't want to be labeled a "consumer" but he admits he has needs. While I don't excuse his detachment, I understand his frustration. I think we could start a revolution by equipping our people to care, not just for the down and out, but for the up and out as well. Everyone is needy!

Jeff Fisher

Pastor J.D.,

More required reading from Spurgeon for ministers. Good word.

Praying for you today.

the fatherless

Good reading. Whenever I see a pastor who spends almost all of his time teaching in his church or sitting in his office, I think of Christ and I compare and contrast. Christ was "out there" as Spurgeon describes... eating with prostitutes, drinking with sinners, healing the sick, going to the common people, listening to, speaking to, and teaching them where they lived. It seems his original disciples followed suit. Yet many modern pastors are reclined in their office or walking around their building 8 hours a day. Many are so out of touch with the world they have virtually no chance of building a relationship with anyone other then someone they'd meet on their church property. That doesn't seem, to me, to be the example Christ set.

Grady Bauer

Great post. I think the days of the minister staying on the campus waiting for the world to come to him for advice are way past. I think the modern pastor should be setting the example by getting off the campus and out into the real world.

Imagine a pastor that coaches little league, tutors children, volunteers with a non-church non profit...in other words a pastor that recognizes ministry can and should occur off campus. I would follow a pastor like this any day.

Raudel

“A desk is a dangerous place from which to watch the world.” Wow! Loved that quote!!! Even though Spurgeon wrote that from his desk... :)

the fatherless

LOL... a desk can be a dangerous place to watch the world while still being the perfect place to write about it. Balance is the key, me thinks.

John Wallace

Raudel; I'm totally with you; of course I hate desks so this is my liberation!

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