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July 01, 2009

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Baker

Thanks for reposting this. This is one of my favorite posts from this blog and I find it to be very helpful and affirming.

serveHimdaily

I recall as a teenager being brought to hear charismatic, funny, happy "youth evangelists" who were experts at getting young people to "come forward" (like at a billy graham event). People would come forward to get "saved" and people would come forward to acknowledge being "called into the full time ministry".

Of the friends of mine who were "called" at these emotional events, less then half of them went into full time "professional" ministry. The evening they responded, they told everyone God had 'called' them. But now what? Also, if at least half the "callings" were later revealed to be emotionally induced, not true callings from God in the (rare) Biblical sense, what about the salvations?

One 'youth evangelist' in particular I recall, I think his name was Clayton King, said at one of these events as he was trying to draw people forward, "If you feel nervous right now, in the pit of your stomach, that is probably God calling you to the ministry." Yeah... umm... that or you're a nervous teenager who does not want to stick out, friends of yours are getting up in public, you aren't used to being in front of a crowd, and you're a little anxious about it all. Gotta wonder what people are up to sometimes.

curious

"If you’re not willing to pray that prayer and obey what God tells you out of it, then you’re not really a disciple of Jesus."

Maybe I'm missing something. But this seems to be the same "confusing language of calling" you speak of just above. I mean, what exactly do you mean by, "obey what God tells you out of it." It seems like you're gravitating back to the belief that God whispers thoughts and statements into our mind about what we should be doing. I'm a firm believer that God can speak to me. In Scripture, He spoke to men. But nothing is ever mentioned of him speaking inaudibly. I also must acknowledge that of the billions that have lived... very few are said to have been spoken to by God. For the rest of us, we simply have Scripture to go by. We are not obligated to obey some conviction or thought just because it sounds good, we felt good thinking it, and we think it may have come from God. Maybe it didn't come from God! Is He the only supernatural power? Are there not demons that also, perhaps, can speak with thoughts and induce incorrect convictions... often as if they are 'angels of light'?

I often wonder exactly who a lot of people are following when they are following "what God said" (and it isn't written in the Bible).

Jamie Steele

Sounds like someone has been reading Olson's book on missions

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